
| Date | 04/05/2010 |
| By | Phil G4WFZ |
| Subject | IOTA operation |
Having check the stats and log it looks like this operation turned into a band score operation with many stations working on multi bands, I thought this was an IOTA operation to give as many island hunters a chance for a few new ones but the stats show this was not true. 73's Phil
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| Date | 05/05/2010 |
| By | Ulrika SM6WYN |
| Subject | Re: IOTA operation |
Just a little reflection... Doesn't the stations calling have a responsibility as well to be polite enough and just make one qso for each island to let as many other hams as possible getting the chance to get a contact??????
73s and 88s Ulrika
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| Date | 05/05/2010 |
| By | Phil G4WFZ |
| Subject | Re: Re: IOTA operation |
Hi Ulrika, I agree with you but now it seems that they all need to work a new IOTA on 8 bands and mulit modes not very fair on the low powered station. Say hi to your father Nils from me.
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| Date | 05/05/2010 |
| By | Nils,SM6CAS |
| Subject | Re: Re: Re: IOTA operation |
The worst case is a Japanese station that is in the log with 38!!!QSOs.
Each island on several bands and both SSB/CW For what reason? To prove that
he is the "best"??? This was definitively not the meaning with this operation.
He took away al least 20 minutes for others to work a new island which
will probably not be activated for a long timr.He is not the only one with multiple QSOs.For IOTA you need one QSO per island and for DXCC they all
count as T32.It is not the team operators fault. They worked them
otherwise the QSO rate would have been even lower
As the QSL manager what shall I do? Any suggestions
E-mail me at nils.sm6cas@telia.com
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| Date | 09/05/2010 |
| By | Larry, NU4B |
| Subject | Re: Re: Re: Re: IOTA operation |
I probably shouldn't step into this conversation and I may get slammed but here it goes.
I am a QRPer and a CW operator and as such I have to fight for just about all my DX QSOs. As a QRPer I battle many highpowered stations and everthng above 5 watts is high power. I know how disappointing it is to lose ou on a new country or island. Its not a rare occasion in my shack. As such I could complain about the mode used, the other DXers filling in the bnad slots every places they can, filling in their leaderboard position to be the top dog.
I could complain about a certain NA IOTA expedition the same time period wasn't going to use CW. On other expeditions I could complain about why EU has to work YI just one more time or why JA just has to work every T8 that comes on the air, or why we NA hams have to work every caribbean island ten times the same year on the same band and mode. But all that is just noise. I missed Peter 1 Island and was upset because the expidition was requesting muliple QSOs trying to beat a record. But again all that is just noise, I could bemoan the SSB only expeditiions. More noise.
The fact is there are only a certain number a things you can control. They are your operating skills and your radio set up with particular attention to the antenna system.
You can't do anything about the weather, space whether, the DX stations set up, the mode they use, etcc... You can't do anything about the oprating habits of other DX'ers. Or their motivations. All just more noise. And you can't do much about propagation. Mentally you have to tune this out and put your own skills, knowledge, and station to work. And if the stars are right, you'll have a QSO. If not go back to the drawing board to figure out what went wrong. I don't think anyone gets a guaranteed QSO.
Why someone would make 38 QSOs on the same bands and modes, I don't know but the person sure doesn't have much class. Many times as a group we NAs, EUs, and ASs have a similar lack of class as we ignore the DX stations request. We all know what we are getting into and we should prepare mentally. I worked 1 island on 2 bands, but I needed T32 on the second band after I worked th first. It didn't bother me to go after the new band. Yes there are legitimate reasons to go after a second QSO.
While I hope you figure all this out and develop a workble solution, I find it soothing to move on to the nrxt big one I need and prepare for it. Forget this one - move on.
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| Date | 09/05/2010 |
| By | Larry, NU4B |
| Subject | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IOTA operation |
One more thing, I would like to again say thanks to the team that put these rare islands on the air. You guys did a great job. And that goes for all the Dxpeditioneers out there. Without their travels most of us would have much fewer countries and islands worked and confirmed. While above it appears I was slamming the Peter 1 Island expedition, I was not. That operation was a fine operation and very succesful. While I ended up with no QSO, it was my own bungling that caused me to miss this rare entity not the expedition's fault. Many DX'ers out there fail to understand that it is the DX'peditioners get to choose how, when, and where they operate. They are the ones that pay for the vast majority of the costs, take the risks (sometimes great risks), and sacrafice the time to put these places on the air.
As stated above us DXers would be better served to, rather than complain, spend the time improving our stations and skills. OK, my soapbox is over.
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| Date | 12/05/2010 |
| By | Phil G4WFZ |
| Subject | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: IOTA operation |
Many thanks Larry for the comments. My point is this, the operation was organised by Nils SM6CAS for IOTA not for dxcc and as such IOTA hunters only need ONE qso to be able to claim the island for a new IOTA group. You don't need multi contacts on muti bands. I understand a person make 2 qso just in case they were not in the log the first time. We can't control the propergation and this was the biggest problem for us in Nothern Europe but operating over 2/3rds of the time on cw didn't help. It was a great operation if you were in the log but a rubbish one if you didn't make it. Lets hope that another operation happens in the next few years while we get better conditions. Regards Phil G4WFZ
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| Date | 03/05/2010 |
| By | Henry DG1VL |
| Subject | super expedition, gratulation! |
Thanks for all QSO's feom T32MI, new DXCC, hope cuagn soon, 73 Hej hej de Henry DG1VL
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